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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 10:00:11 GMT -8
To LD Dennis Cholowski TWD 87 (25) 7.000M UFA 2028 To RD Erik Karlsson OFD 91 (33) 11.5M UFA 2027
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Post by Chicago Blackhawks GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:00:57 GMT -8
Probably the exact opposite of what I should be doing but I like Karlsson so what the heck. Accept.
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Chi - Bos
Jul 2, 2021 12:07:02 GMT -8
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:07:02 GMT -8
Final
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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:08:52 GMT -8
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:10:12 GMT -8
Boston Bruins GMNo it's not Final. For this shit trade to go thru, I need Boston to explain to me why he would trade his best defenceman for someone who will be 2nd pair D on his team, arguably his 3rd defenceman. This trade hurts his team for this season and hurts him long term. Boston is gifting Karlsson to CHI.
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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:14:39 GMT -8
Detroit Red Wings GM, karlsson hurts my cap space at 11.5m hes getting old at 33 years old and i dont see how he can hurt my team
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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:15:18 GMT -8
i dont see how cholowski will hurt my team?
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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:15:59 GMT -8
i need space to sign players next year like carlo and edvinsson and karlsson takes to much cap space Detroit Red Wings GM ,
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:23:54 GMT -8
Detroit Red Wings GM , karlsson hurts my cap space at 11.5m hes getting old at 33 years old and i dont see how he can hurt my team He's like the 3rd or 4th best dman in the league and won't retire for 4 seasons or more. For 2-3 seasons of those seasons, he'll be 90+ OA. Cholowski most likely wont get past 87 OA, especially if he's playing on your 2nd pairing. He'll most likely be 85-86 after the season. You are trading away a top player for a worse player and getting nothing in return. You have almost 2M in cap space and will have 5M+ in space after this season. You have the space to sign those other defencemen. Trade also only has 3 accepts on it. Posting "Final" and not saying anything else is not accepting or rejecting. Needs 1 more to go thru
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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:26:04 GMT -8
i see where your coming from
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Post by Chicago Blackhawks GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:27:49 GMT -8
I dont think Detroit sees the value of 4.5M in Cap and 8 years different of age. I thought the deal was perfectly fair but Boston is new and Wings is the boss so if it's seen as being lopsided in any way, especially the amount Detroit sees it then we should reject it.
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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:30:43 GMT -8
i agree if Detroit thinks it that lopsided then we should reject
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:32:01 GMT -8
I dont think Detroit sees the value of 4.5M in Cap and 8 years different of age. I thought the deal was perfectly fair but Boston is new and Wings is the boss so if it's seen as being lopsided in any way, especially the amount Detroit sees it then we should reject it. If it has 4 accepts, it's good to go thru. I wont reverse/stop any trade. I just want any new GM to be aware that any 90+ OA player is super valuable and for players to get to that level, you need some luck and a lot of MPU. If he was so desperate for Cap, he should be trading Bobrovksy, not his best player. He doesn't need cap this year, so he has a full season to figure it out for next season.
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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:33:33 GMT -8
Detroit Red Wings GM, no1 wants bob tho and if they do they want edvinsson with him im new to the whole system so i do thank you for your honesty
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Post by Chicago Blackhawks GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:38:44 GMT -8
Ok let's reject it then. Both Boston and I honestly thought it was a fair swap but from personal experience I know the simmer sees the league and player values far better than the average GM So i trust his judgment and I'm not here to fleece a new GM.
Rejected Final.
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:39:56 GMT -8
Detroit Red Wings GM , no1 wants bob tho and if they do they want edvinsson with him im new to the whole system so i do thank you for your honesty If GMs are asking for that kind of return, they shouldn't be acting like that towards a new GM.
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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:43:15 GMT -8
idk but if me and chicago both retract the offer can we deny the trade?
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:44:35 GMT -8
Ok let's reject it then. Both Boston and I honestly thought it was a fair swap but from personal experience I know the simmer sees the league and player values far better than the average GM So i trust his judgment and I'm not here to fleece a new GM. Rejected Final. I hold the current 90+ OA players to a different standard than the rest of the league, I've said this in shoutbox but no one seems to pay attention when I say stuff in there. I'm trying to make it so no top player gets cut off at the knees after 1 bad season.
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jul 2, 2021 12:46:36 GMT -8
Detroit Red Wings GM , no1 wants bob tho and if they do they want edvinsson with him im new to the whole system so i do thank you for your honesty I can trade you Subban for Bobrovksy if you are worried about cap space
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Post by Boston Bruins GM on Jul 2, 2021 13:18:23 GMT -8
so its rejected or accpeted
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jul 2, 2021 16:24:02 GMT -8
This was a solid trade lol. karlsson wasn’t even that much better point wise than Cholo both scoring 10 goals too. Then with the cap difference and age also
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Post by PlayerRep on Jul 2, 2021 16:33:33 GMT -8
This was a solid trade lol. karlsson wasn’t even that much better point wise than Cholo both scoring 10 goals too. Then with the cap difference and age also uhh, Karlsson had 49 points in 71 games and Cholowski had 31 points in 82 games. Karlsson's production for 82 games would've been around 55 points. 24 points is a big difference for defencemen
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